Monthly Archives: February 2008

Clean Cut M’s

posted by Jon

Sorry for the lack of updates lately, but I haven’t really seen the point of relaying pointless anecdotes, charity game box scores or anything like that. If you are interested in that stuff I’m sure you’ve already looked up Geoff Baker, Shannon Drayer, Ryan Divish, Jim Street and others. This is a very slow time, but it should pick up in a little while. We’ll start pumping out some pieces on players, position battles, and some projections will be coming in the following weeks.

One thing that did catch my eye is that manager John McLaren is going to have a set of appearance guidelines for the team. While they haven’t all been determined, he mentioned that no full beards would be allowed, and no earrings either.

This is nothing unheard of. I’m sure all of you know that the Yankees have very strict guidelines when it comes to player appearance. The only player I can see having a major problem with this is Arthur Rhodes, who once was ejected at Safeco Field when asked by opposing hitter Omar Visquel to remove his diamond earrings because of the glare. The Mariner Moose may have a problem with being clean-shaven as well, but who knows?

I wonder if this will be the end of the crazy mid-losing-streak haircut days.

If there is anything else going on that you think we should dive into, feel free to comment on this post. I haven’t been keeping up with the M’s as diligently as usual, as other areas of my life have been screaming for attention lately.

Rotation Determined

posted by Patrick

The 2008 rotation is set as follows:

Erik Bedard (L)
Felix Hernandez (R)
Carlos Silva (R)
Jarrod Washburn (L)
Miguel Batista (R)

So we’ve got a 16-game winner from last year pitching in the fifth spot… cool!

There is no doubt that the lefty-righty dynamic played a factor here. John McLaren pointed out that back to back lefties did not work out last year.

2008 Bullpen Competition

posted by Jon

Last season, Seattle broke camp with a bullpen consisting of Julio Mateo, Brandon Morrow, J.J. Putz, Chris Reitsma, Arthur Rhodes, George Sherrill and Sean White.

2008 will see a much different bullpen coming out of Spring Training, with J.J. Putz being the only true lock. Putz used 2007 to solidify himself as one of the games best, converting his first 28 save opportunities on his way to becoming the second pitcher in franchise history to reach the 40 save plateau. He posted a career low 1.38 ERA and 0.70 WHIP, and would have added to his save total if it wasn’t for the Mariners’ 2-17 slide late in the year.

Seattle has five or six spots up for grabs, despite the trade that sent George Sherrill and Kam Mickolio to Baltimore. With almost enough relievers in camp to fill a 25-man roster from top to bottom, it’s going to be a fierce competition. Here are the 2008 candidates as of February 20, 2008:

(Quick Termanology: LOOGY = left-handed specialist. For a good read on all the different bullpen roles, check out this post by Patrick on his old blog.)

Sean Green, RHP – A rough Spring Training landed Green in AAA Tacoma to start the 2007 season, but he still ended up making the third most big league appearances of the pitching staff. A very good sinkerball and unorthodox delivery had him cruising to a 2.44 ERA on August 3rd, but he struggled for the remainder of the season. You call it a tired arm, the result of Green’s first full major league season; Hargrove and McLaren’s mismanagement of the bullpen; or you could argue that the entire team was struggling down the stretch. I choose to blame management, but the bottom line is that Sean Green had a very nice year overall and you can expect him back next season. Some have speculated that Green could be moved into the setup role for 2008, but I would recommend a power arm in that slot. A pitcher that relies on groundballs and defense isn’t the type of guy you want with the game on the line. Give me someone that can strike someone out with the tying run on third base.

Eric O’Flaherty, LHP – Another guy that started the year in AAA, O’Flaherty showed he belonged in the big leagues last season by pitching 4.2 scoreless innings in relief against the New York Yankees on May 12th. O’Flaherty had an overall solid season in his first full year, posting a 4.47 ERA in 56 games. He’ll be competing for a role as a middle reliever or left-handed specialist this Spring, but appears to have the inside track as the team’s LOOGY. It would certainly benefit him, as his ERA against left-handers (1.38) was over six full points lower than against right-handers (7.52), not to mention lefties batted .183 off of him while right-handers hit .277.

Mark Lowe, RHP – We all remember Mark Lowe as the guy that made his major league debut on July 7, 2006, striking out the side on his way to a club record 17.2 consecutive scoreless innings to start a career. The streak was ended after he started having discomfort in his elbow, an injury that caused him to miss the tail end of August and all of September. Lowe continued to deal with injuries and pitched just 2.2 innings in the big leagues last season. When healthy he throws a high nineties fastball to go along with a nice slider and circle change. Lowe appears to be 100% healthy this Spring, and could find himself in a setup role should he rediscover his former dominance.

Brandon Morrow, RHP – No one expected Brandon Morrow to make any noise last Spring Training, but his pitching was so lights out that he forced Seattle management to make a tough decision. He made the team as a long-to-middle reliever and stayed with the big-club all season long, eventually pitching later in games. Many believe, myself included, that Brandon Morrow would be better served starting in AAA, rather than falling back into a bullpen mindset. That said, Morrow has the tools to become a dominate setup man this season, especially if his control problems are somewhat behind him (as his Winter League stats indicated). Manager John McLaren has already stated that Morrow will be pitching in the 7th and 8th innings. There has been some talk, however, that should the rest of the bullpen prove healthy and pitch effectively, Morrow could end up in AAA after all.

Chris Reitsma, RHP – After an awful season of pitching through injuries (career worst in several categories, including a 7.61 ERA and 1.94 WHIP), Chris Reitsma is completely healthy and determined to get back to his groundball inducing ways that made him a successful reliever between 2003-2005. Returning on a non-roster invitation, Reitsma will have to impress early and often to compete. The 30-year-old’s seven years of big league experience can only help him make the team, but I have trouble believing his experience alone could bump a more talented pitcher off the roster.

Arthur Rhodes, LHP – Swiftly approaching 40 and without back-to-back successful seasons since his last stint in Seattle, Arthur Rhodes is giving it one more shot after missing all of the 2007 season due to full-on Tommy John surgery. Should he be able to put some decent heat on his fastball and control his formerly wicked breaking pitches and changeup, Rhodes could land as the team’s left-handed specialist. Rhodes shouldn’t be ready for Opening Day, however, so his chances are contingent on other players’ inabilities or injury.

Ryan Rowland-Smith, LHP – The first ever MLB player with a hyphenated last name didn’t get much of a look in Spring Training last season, but a strong stint in AAA Tacoma had him up to Seattle for 26 games in 2007. Pitching in mid-to-long relief, RRS kept his ERA under four, showing off a very nice pickoff move and good control. He will likely be competing for a spot in middle relief. He will also get a long look as the team’s possibly LOOGY, but his splits over the last few years reveal that it may not be the role for him.

Cesar Jimenez, LHP – Last we saw of Cesar Jimenez, he was getting roughed up horribly in his final three appearances of his 2006 September callup. The 23-year-old southpaw throws a high-80s fastball to go along with a curveball and excellent changeup. He looked pretty good in 2007, posting a 3.51 ERA in 25.2 innings with AAA Tacoma, followed by stellar 0.77 ERA over 23.1 innings in the Venezuelan Winter League. I believe the main factors determining Jimenez’s fate with the major league club are the aforementioned Ryan Rowland-Smith and Eric O’Flaherty. Should they both make the Opening Day bullpen; I don’t Jimenez joining them.

Jon Huber, RHP – After impressing in his brief 2006 debut, Huber had a tough 2007. His atrocious Spring Training had him starting the year in AAA, where he posted a career worst 7.56 ERA. Huber was up and down a couple times with the big club, posting a 4.76 ERA over nine appearances. Huber isn’t a dominate pitcher, but gets grounders with a slider/curveball combination and can still squeeze out a few strikeouts. He could win a middle relief role with a solid Spring, though there appears to be better pitchers in front of him.

Anderson Garcia, RHP – There isn’t much to say about Garcia that I didn’t say upon his arrival. He’s got a great fastball that has already gotten rave reviews since he arrived at the Mariners’ camp, but his secondary pitches are still not major league ready. He will have to improve dramatically to make the team, though the fact that he’s on the 40-man roster helps him. He’ll also have to stay healthy, as he has been suffering from biceps tendonitis as of late.

Brodie Downs, RHP – Downs never pursued baseball after high school. Instead he went to work full time and occasionally played in local beer leagues, where he caught the eyes of scouts in Southern California. They urged him to quit his job and start playing at Modesto Junior College, which he did, and he was drafted by the Seattle Mariners 705th overall in last years draft. Now 28, Downs is attending his first big-league camp after pitching well in his first pro half-season in which he posted a 2.51 ERA in 25.1 innings between rookie ball, AA and AAA. He has two pitches deemed major league ready, including a “heavy” sinking fastball and slider. Pair that with the stellar work ethic he processes and you have all the makings of Seattle’s next great success story. The organization knows he is already in his prime years, so they will give him every opportunity to make the big club out of Spring Training.

Roy Corcoran (RHP), Philip Barzilla (LHP) – I haven’t been able to dig up too much on these two non-roster invitees. Both have had a fair amount of success during long minor league careers. I would assume that both players will be competing for middle relief roles, as Barzilla’s minor league splits do not indicate he’d be a good fit as the teams LOOGY. If I had to guess, I’d say Corcoran has a better shot at making the team.

Horacio Ramirez (LHP), R.A. Dickey (RHP), Cha Seung Baek (RHP) – These three, in my opinion, are the top three candidates for the long relief role. Could they be outdone this Spring? Of course, but I don’t believe their performances will determine their fate as much as some other players. Seattle has good reason to keep the entire trio on the 25-man roster, let alone just one of them. R.A. Dickey was a rule-5 draft choice this winter, so if he doesn’t make the cut he’ll be heading back to Minnesota along with some cash. Cha Seung Baek is out of minor league options, and will have to clear waivers should he fail to land a major league role. Horacio Ramirez will be making $2.75M this season, a steep salary to tuck away in the minor leagues.

That said, I believe Ramirez will be sent to AAA unless he proves to be head-and-shoulders above the rest of the long relief candidates. I also don’t see Dickey making the team as a reliever, as catcher Kenji Johjima has never seen a knuckleball until now and has issues blocking the plate anyway. It doesn’t seem practical to bring in backup catcher Jaime Burke every time Dickey is called upon mid-game. Baek seems like a good fit. He’s shown flashes of brilliance and is entering his ninth season with the Seattle Mariners organization. This could finally be the year he gets a regular role with the big-club.

While guys like Huber, Garcia, Downs, Corcoran and Barzilla appear to be longshots at best, there are other pitchers in camp whose chances seem even slimmer. Ryan Feierabend, Sean White, Robert Rohrbaugh and Jake Woods may be ready for consistent big league action, but the long relief role will likely be filled by one of the players listed above whose situation is a little more complicated. Joe Woerman and Stephen Kahn lack AAA experience, so in order to make the club they would have to outdo over a dozen pitchers this Spring. Phillipe Aumont will not be the next Brandon Morrow. Unlike Morrow, Aumont didn’t pitch in college, let alone high school. Did I miss anyone?

Last season Seattle broke camp with a seven-man bullpen, with the intentions of dropping one once the starters were ready to go deeper into ballgames. Last season we weren’t really sure what to expect out of Horacio Ramirez, Jeff Weaver, Miguel Batista or even Felix Hernandez; this year there are far fewer question marks. With the way the bench is shaping up, I wouldn’t expect Seattle to go with a seven-man bullpen. I posted my guess as to how the bullpen would shape up over at springtraining08.com:

Long Reliever: Cha Seung Baek
Runners Up: Horacio Ramirez, R.A. Dickey
Middle Relievers: Sean Green and Ryan Rowland-Smith
Runners Up: Chris Reitsma, Cesar Jimenez, Jon Huber
Left-handed Specialist: Eric O’Flaherty
Runners Up: Cesar Jimenez, Arthur Rhodes
Setup: Brandon Morrow and Mark Lowe
Runners Up: Chris Reitsma, Arthur Rhodes, Sean Green
Closer: J.J. Putz

The only thing I would change at this point would be put Arthur Rhodes ahead of Cesar Jimenez in the left-handed specialist competition.

Congrats on making through that. What would you like to see the bullpen shape up?

Niehaus Wins 08 Frick Award

posted by Patrick

Today, on his 73rd birthday, our very own Dave Niehaus has been selected as the 2008 Ford C. Frick Award winner for excellence in broadcasting. This prestigious award gives much deserved recognition to the great broadcasters in baseball history like Ernie Harwell, Vin Scully, Harry Caray, Bob Eucker and many more.

As many already know, Mr. Niehaus has been the voice of the Mariners since their inception in 1977. His voice has become familiar with M’s fans both young and old and his sayings like “That ball wil fly away” and “My, oh my” have become part of Mariners history forever. Even through the many losing seasons early on, Niehaus has remained loyal to the orgination and to the fans and there is no one more deserving to see the Mariners succeed than Dave Niehaus.

This award is truly recognizing an amazing individual with great passion, dedication, enthusiasm and loyalty towards the game of baseball and the Seattle Mariners. He has already been eternalized in the Mariners Hall of Fame and now he will become a part of baseball lore as he is admitted into the broadcasters wing of the MLB Hall of Fame.

Note: As of the end of the 2007 season, Niehaus has called all but 82 of the teams 4,899 games

M’s Sign Bubba Crosby; Lopez Stuck

The Seattle Mariners signed 31-year-old outfielder Bubba Crosby to a minor leaue contract today. He will not receive an invitation to Spring Training.

The Mariners will be left-handed hitting Bubba Crosby’s fourth organization. He’s been with the Dodgers for six years (12 MLB at bats), the Yankees for four (238 MLB at bats), and he spent 2007 in the Cincinatti Reds’ organization in AAA. He has a career major league vital line of .216/.253/.300 and a minor league line of .277/.346/.417.

I can’t imagine what the plan for Crosby is. He will not be given a chance to make the major league team, so I imagine he is just filling space.

In other news, Jose Lopez is stuck in Venezuela after failing to obtain a working visa on time. Is it just me, or has he had the same problem in past seasons?

M’s Claim Anderson Garcia; Notes

Anderson Garcia, a right-handed reliever, was claimed off the waiver wire from the Philadelphia Phillies. He has been added to the 40-man roster.

Garcia has bounced around from organization to organization for the last seven seasons, but has made just one major league appearance. He has had some mixed numbers in the minors, but overall carries a career 3.93 ERA over 207 games (31 starts). The 26-year-old effectively throws a fastball in the mid-90s, but doesn’t have the secondary pitches to be successful.

Garcia will be used to boost competition, but is a long-shot at best to make the ballclub. He will likely start the season in AAA.

In other news, former 2-time Mariner Bret Boone has come out of retirement to sign a minor league contract with the Washington Nationals. The 39-year-old will join his brother and father in the organization. Boone signed a minor league deal with the New York Mets for the 2006 season, but retired before the regular season started. I find it hard to see him starting anywhere at this point in his career, especially in Washington where they already have Ronnie Belliard and Felipe Lopez.

Not a lot going on besides that. Most of the position players are in camp a day early. Kenji Johjima can’t do anything catch R.A. Dickey’s knuckleball at this point. There is a theory that if Dickey makes the team Jaime Burke will catch him most of the time. This is a problem, however, since Dickey will be coming out of the bullpen. Either way, I don’t see Dickey making the club. I would think that Horacio Ramirez and Cha Seung Baek will be given more of an opportunity. Only time will tell, and I promise that position battle will be covered in more detail at a later date.

Read and React: Who Would You Rather Have Long Term?

posted by: Dustin

So, since the Mariners’ blogs around the internet have been rather boring since we landed Bedard, I figured I’d chip in a Read and React! Here goes…

Who would you rather have signed long term?
Felix Hernandez, or Erik Bedard?

Leave a comment telling BBT who you would rather see long term!

Please, do not say both. I know this would be ideal, but for sake of the blog post, please only pick one, if possible.

Hargrove: "I’d like to try it one more time"

posted by Patrick


As Spring Training is set to begin, Mike Hargrove will not be managing a big-league camp for only the second time in 17 years. The other day, Jim Moore of the Post Intelligencer decided to give Hargrove a call to see how he was spending his free time and how he felt about not being in camp.

After admitting that he is missing being away from the game, Hargrove went on to make an interesting but not so surprising statement; “I know that I don’t want to run the risk of being bored. Once this year is over, I’m going to want to do something. I’d like to try it one more time…[The competition] is what I’m going to miss the most. You can play golf or cards, and that’s competition, but it doesn’t reach the level or intensity of competition at the major league level. I’m not sure I’m done with that yet.”

If you’ll remember back to the time right before the All Star Break when Hargrove left the Seattle Mariners, his motives for leaving so unexpectedly were under question. The reasons that Hargrove gave were that he lost his motivation to manage and that he wanted to spend more time with his family. So has he all of a sudden regained his passion for managing or has he just got sick of his family? Grover’s a good guy, so I hardly doubt it’s the latter.

What’s interesting about this relates back to his resignation press conference on July 1st of last year when he said “Will I manage again? Probably not; but maybe. I’ve told you guys this too: you will find kids that learned ‘never say never’, but I can’t imagine myself managing again, so this is probably my last job.”

One thing that is certain is that he probably won’t be getting a big league job anytime during this season as he has agreed to manage a summer-league team in Kansas. But as for 2009, PI’s Jim Moore reports that Hargrove is hopeful that he will get a call to return to his familiar spot on the bench as a big league skipper.

DH or AAA for Clement; Notes

Here are Spring Training notes from Thursday morning:

Manager John McLaren told reporters today that Jeff Clement will not be carried as a third catcher, nor will he challenge Richie Sexson at first base. Clement will report to AAA Tacoma unless he can beat out Jose Vidro for the DH job. Even though most of us think Clement would be better in the role, he’ll have to have a monster Spring to have a chance. ”With his bat, he could DH,” McLaren said. ”We’re very happy with Vidro as our DH and with Kenji as our catcher. But we like surprises, too.”

Brandon Morrow will most certainly pitch in the late innings, not in long relief. This helps the team the most, but hurts Morrow’s development as a starter.

McLaren says a platoon in right field is unlikely, though Wlad Balentien, Jeremy Reed, Charlton Jimerson and Mike Morse will all be given looks. If Norton should make the team, kiss this possibility goodbye.

Sources: Shannon DrayerRyan DivishJohn Hickey

If I missed anything, feel free to post it in the comments for everyone. I’m busy working on the new site today.

Legacy of Mariners Fans?

posted by Patrick

Before we move over to the new site, I want to know what our viewers think the legacy of the typical Mariners fan is so that we can design the site with the fans in mind. We know that Yankees and Red Sox fans are known to be loud and obnoxious. We know that A’s fans can be awfully annoying and they don’t pack the Colisseum very much. So what defines a Mariners fan. What are we known for?

With your help, we can make sure that the new site reflects Mariner Nation!